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Poorly worded and biased statement

The article contains the statement (in badly-phrased English, to boot) "After von Trier's statement, Björk explained the details about this incident, while her manager, Derek Birkett, also accused von Trier's actions in the past." Having encountered this, looked at the sources, and altered this to "After von Trier's statement, Björk put forward her own account, while her manager, Derek Birkett, supported Björk's account of von Trier's actions", both written in proper, natural English and representative of the actual facts of the situation as reported by the cited sources and known to anyone aside from the parties involved, with the edit summary "balanced tone", the change was reverted, with the edit summary "not a balance, these are clear accusations". This misses the point of the previous edit entirely. The fact is that "accusations" are all that have been established; Von Trier might have acted in exactly the way Bjork described- or indeed worse- but equally he might not.

The known state of affairs is that Bjork made the initial accusation; von Trier responded, and was backed up by the film's producer, then Bjork gave a lengthier account and was backed up by her agent. Stating so unequivocally that it was Bjork's version of events that "explained the details about this incident" is biased, as the truth either way has not subsequently been established. The wording implies that her account is definitely true, when no-one has any way of knowing this. Given the general societal view of these kinds of matters it's impolitic to say so, but the generally-beneficial "believe survivors" mentality, poorly employed as in this case, has a way of reducing the encyclopaedic value of articles such as this by introducing bias not contained within cited sources. I have no interest in back-and-forth edit warring, but note ought to be made of disagreement with the presentation of this statement, potentially inaccurate as it is, and therefore unsuited to an article aspiring to encyclopaedic quality. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.145.191.147 (talk) 02:09, 30 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"Mentor"

I was curious about the mentor mentioned, Thomas Boguszewski, so I did some googling. No such person was ever a mentor to Lars von Trier, and the source used in the article does not contain the quotation about a mentor attributed to it. At this point I noticed the name is BOGUSzewski. Get it? I'm not editing the page because I don't know anything about wikipedia and your process, but somebody should do that. And also look at other edits made by that user, probably. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:100:8081:6D90:C0D8:40DB:E300:7EB0 (talk) 06:37, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Weak sources

I don't think that the book of a theologian is a good source for cinema, directors and their influences. The film Night Porter doesn't seem to be similar to the style of Lars Von Trier at all. 87.10.235.158 (talk) 16:31, 24 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Updating and adjusting note on review of "The Kingdom: Exodus"

The source used is a review that is not as positive as the synthesis in von Trier's article. The meanings do not align. Therefore I have edited the article to match the actual wording in the review. Please see more negative version as evident in the last paragraph of review by Selina Sondermann: https://www.theupcoming.co.uk/2022/09/05/venice-film-festival-2022-the-kingdom-exodus-riget-exodus-review/:

"No stranger to provocation, von Trier ventures into some dangerous political terrain with his mockery of feminist efforts, gender equality and proclaiming a hubris of science in the opening titles. (The irony of the show premiering at a location where the bathroom break between episodes three and four was impeded by the gender segregation of toilets should be evident.)

Nevertheless the dark humour is The Kingdom: Exodus’s best quality as many of the fantastical elements feel like unimaginative and half-baked ideas and the resolution disappoints. “Everything is stolen,” the director’s note proclaims at the end, taking the easy way out." Fu-lee-bai (talk) 10:51, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]