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This page to USA focused lacks balance

This page focuses on trade unions / USA way to much & ignores the fact USA has played little or zero involvement in the history & achievements of unions around the world.

for example it was Australian/ New Zealand unions who 1st achieved equal rights and the vote for woman, it was Australian unions who achieved world fort laws for a 38 hour week / 5 day work weeek. Holiday pay, long service leave.

In Europe they won superannuation entitalments.

Minimum wages & increases, disability’s rights. Compensation laws & work health laws. Free universal health care, OH&S laws. so forth so on ect ect.

all these rights where won in countries that are not the USA

List of trade unions in Australia

https://www.actu.org.au/

Please ensure this page is reflective of the faces from around the world & this page does not become a propaganda page for the USA. 49.185.29.231 (talk) 04:26, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

History/Trade guilds should be deleted or rewritten

The section History/Trade guilds doesn't establish how any of the sentences mentioned in there relate to trade unions. The cited sources don't seem to be about trade unions at all (judging from their titles). So this all looks like off-topic or WP:OR. The sentence that comes closest to being relevant is "In September 2011, archaeological investigations done at the site of the artificial harbor Portus in Rome revealed inscriptions in a shipyard constructed during the reign of Trajan (98–117) indicating the existence of a shipbuilders guild" but even there the source doesn't establish that the shipbuilders guild is a precursor to modern trade unions. I don't see how fixed prices for commercial services in the Code of Hammurabi are relevant to the topic of this article at all.

Unless someone can establish the link to trade unions with support from reliable sources, this section should be deleted. The examples also seem oddly specific, and specific about ships. If we have reliable sources that identify the professional guilds as precursors to trade unions, we should write about this instead of stating arbitrary trivia from antiquity. The huge gap in the history section from 198 CE to 1574 CE also makes it impossible for the reader to follow the storyline. Joe vom Titan (talk) 08:45, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that the section should be deleted; the connection to modern trade unions seems tenuous at best. ---Avatar317 ^(talk) 01:43, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]